Date: 8/21/2005


SENT TO SEVERAL DISCUSSION LISTS, WITH SPECIAL REQUEST TO List Owner, Hindu Maha Sabha as follows:- /// Sir,/// We have great respect for you./// In our eyes YOUR organisation is the counterpart of ALL-INDIA MUSLIM LEAGUE in 1947 that had SO MUCH POWER against our "windless bag" of Secularism on our own territory that they could most easily snatch FIVE PROVINCES from all the patriotic "forces" at the disposal of "Mother India", on ONE day (Aug 15, 1947). Thereafter they sent their "murderous aulaad" to invade the "abode of gods", KASHMIR. /// We notice that you have been rejecting our postings in the past, including those "harmless" and quite "non threatening" ones like the one below, taken from BBC direct, without any negative comment against India's HOME GROWN terrorists (who threaten us in Ayodhya) being added by us. /// Please do not stand between a Hindu and his AWARENESS. /// Due to this CRIME by our top leaders, the Hindus vanished from Pakistan within a few weeks. /// With great regards to your HINDU Spirit that ought to be the biggest DETERRENT to our ENEMIES both at home and abroad. /// ======================================= BBC, LONDON:-/// 21.08.05/// Muslim leaders 'in denial' claim/// Britain's most powerful Islamic body is "in denial" about the prevalence of extreme views among its members, one of its founders has told the BBC. /// The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) pledged to tackle extremism "head on" after the 7 July attacks in London. /// But in a BBC Panorama special, Mehbood Kantharia and other prominent British Muslims question the MCB's commitment to meeting this challenge. /// The MCB has branded the programme "deeply unfair" and a "witch-hunt". /// Secretary general Sir Iqbal Sacranie said Panorama had used "deliberately garbled quotes in an attempt to malign the Muslim Council of Britain". /// He said it had "the barely concealed goal of drawing British Muslims away from being inspired in their political beliefs and actions by the faith of Islam". /// "It is unfortunate that just when Britain's 1.6 million Muslims are beginning to make progress in terms of their political participation in the mainstream, there are those who are purposefully trying to sabotage that process," he added. /// Task force /// Mehbood Kantharia was a member of the MCB's central working committee between 1997 and 2004, but has since left the organisation. /// He told Panorama: "It is my personal view that because they are in a state of denial they cannot become real, you know, sort of like, forthright, really forthright about wanting to do something about the kind of extremism that prevails." /// We are confident the programme will be a timely contribution to the present debate /// Mike Robinson, Panorama producer /// Editor tackles Panorama 'slur' /// The MCB, an umbrella organisation of about 400 mosques and other Islamic groups, is seen as representing mainstream Muslim opinion in the UK. /// On Saturday the council said Mr Kantharia had informed it that his remarks were not referring to the MCB. /// But Mr Kantharia later said that while he had not mentioned the MCB specifically, his comments could have been interpreted as applying to individuals within it. /// "I think the MCB is overreacting in this matter," he added. /// MCB secretary general Sir Iqbal Sacranie was asked after the 7 July attacks to help set up a task force to root out extremism in Britain's Muslim communities. /// After meeting Tony Blair in Downing Street on 19 July he said: "The community is determined to deal with this issue head on." /// But an investigation by Panorama reporter John Ware found groups affiliated to the MCB promoting anti-Semitic views, the belief that Islam is a superior ideology to secular British values and the view that Christians and Jews are conspiring to undermine Islam. /// In an interview with Mr Ware, Sir Iqbal refused to disown a group known as Al-e-Hadith, which says the ways of Christians and Jews "are based on sick or deviant views" and that "imitating the Kuffar [non-Muslims] leads to a permanent abode in hellfire". /// Suicide bombers /// Commenting on the group, Sir Iqbal said "we must accept the reality" of the diversity within the Muslim community in the UK. /// He also praised the work of the Islamic Foundation, which promotes the teachings of Jamaa'at Islami founder Sayid Mawdudi. /// Mr Mawdudi wrote Islam was a "revolutionary ideology which seeks to alter the social order of the entire world". /// In a wide ranging interview, Mr Ware also tackled Sir Iqbal on his decision not to attend the Holocaust Day Memorial and his attendance of a memorial service for Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, who supported suicide bombers in Israel. /// Asked what kind of signal his presence at Sheikh Yassin's memorial service sent to young British Muslims, Sir Iqbal said: "If your whole question is based upon one aspect of that person's belief in terms of supporting it, we look into the wider picture. The suicide bombing that you're referring to is one aspect of the whole struggle." /// But Sir Iqbal condemned suicide bombings by British Muslims anywhere and said there was no difference between the life of a Palestinian and the life of a Jew and that all life was sacred. /// In a separate interview, a senior spokesman for one of the MCB's main affiliates, the Muslim Association of Britain (MAB), appeared to condone the glorification of suicide bombers. /// 'Witch hunt' /// Asked if describing martyrdom in Israel as "divine bliss" meant he was an "apologist for terrorism", Dr Azzam Tamini replied: "If you want to consider me so that's up to you." /// London mayor Ken Livingstone earlier this week accused the BBC and other media organisations of conducting a "witch-hunt" against the MCB, which he described as the "mainstream representative body of British Muslims". /// The MCB has made a formal complaint to the BBC accusing it of "blatant pro-Israeli bias" and "undermining community relations in the UK". /// In his letter of complaint, written before he had viewed the programme, Sir Iqbal said: "It appears the BBC is more interested in furthering a pro-Israeli agenda than assessing the work of Muslim organisations in the UK." /// He added: "The BBC should not allow itself to be used by the highly placed supporters of Israel in the British media to make political capital out of the 7 July atrocities in London." /// 'Timely contribution' /// In his response, Panorama editor Mike Robinson, said the programme examined questions "being raised by the Muslim community itself". /// "Despite some critical comments to the contrary, it is certainly not the case that nearly all the questioning of Sir Iqbal Sacranie was about Israel." /// He added that the BBC "rejects completely any allegation of institutional or programme bias" and he was "confident" the programme would be "a timely contribution to the present debate". /// The Panorama special A Question of Leadership is on BBC One at 2220BST on Sunday, 21 August. /// ==================/// Pakistan hangs Musharraf attacker/// A former soldier who was found guilty of conspiracy to assassinate Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has been executed. /// Islamuddin Siddiqui, 35, was hanged at dawn inside a maximum security prison in Multan. /// He was convicted for a failed assassination attempt on Gen Musharraf in December 2003 in Rawalpindi. The president survived two attacks within days of each other, both on the road between Rawalpindi and Islamabad. Siddiqui was part of a group involved in the first attempt, in which a road bridge was blown up using powerful explosives, but they missed Gen Musharraf's car by seconds. A military court had found Siddiqui guilty of conspiring to kill the Pakistani leader. 'War on terror' Siddiqui's appeals for clemency had been turned down by the military and by Gen Musharraf himself. His father and some family members were present outside the prison and were immediately handed his body. This is the first execution after several low-ranking army and air force officers were arrested for their alleged involvement in the two attempts on the life of Gen Musharraf. Many of them are being tried by two separate military courts. President Musharraf has been a target for Islamic militants since joining the US-led "war on terror" following the attacks of 11 September 2001. He survived the first attack on 14 December thanks, apparently, to electronic jamming devices which blocked a signal to a remote-controlled bomb. The blast destroyed a bridge minutes after his motorcade had passed over it. No-one was hurt. Eleven days later two suicide bombers tried to ram explosive-laden vehicles into the president's limousine, killing 17 people. .........................000000000