Date: 16 Aug 2012


COMMENT (for Shri ARUN SHOURIE): Thank you for your remarkable research and insight into Islam. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ As we all know, Islam is nothing but strife, feud, fighting and killing when they are confronting the SANE, the WISE, the TOLERANT and the GENEROUS non Muslims like Hindus and Christians who tolerate the intolerent. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ The Muslims are dead set against the Hindus, Christians, Pagans and the Jews because the Muslims cannot rise above their own primitive level of human existence in which hatred, combat, abductoin, womanising and rape occupy most of the sick minds of Mohammedans. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Of the Hindus, the Christians and the Jews they are EXTREMELY JEALOUS and burn in the fires of jealousy day and night. So, what better than to wipe them out or bring them down, too, to their own primitive level, or better still, annihilate them to remove them out of sight, lest a Muslim's child asks, "Father, why is the Jew in limousine while you can only afford a donkey to ride- Talilban and Al Qaida style in the caves in Afghanistan?" \\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Now let us look at HINDUSTHAN, a land where Islam has killed and beheaded millions of native inhabitants shedding tons of innocent blood, not just in 1946 and 1947. \\\\\\\\\\\\ According to the Koran somewhere, their Rasulallah says, perhaps through negligence or absent mindedness, that "shedding the blood of an innocent person is the key to HELL," though all the time it asks them to kill or convert the non Muslims. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ If there is any truth in this then each and every person who was killed because he was NOT a Muslim but worshipped deities, gods and gurus of a higher human level of consciousness and tolerant nature, uttered a curse for Mohammed and his followers with the last breath in body. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\ It is the cumulative effect of those CURSES and ABUSE that is responsible for the PERMANENT restlessness, turbulence and bloodshed AMONG THE MUSLIMS themselves. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Which Kafir is killing the MOHAMMEDANS of all shades and hues in Libya, Egypt, Irak, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and now in SYRIA? \\\\\\\\\\\\\ The non Muslims, who pursue other ideas and activities than simply dreaming about killing the Muslims, raping their daughters and occupying their homes, farms and shops, live much happier and peaceful lives. But they need to beware of the presence of the "beasts" in human form, with Koran stuffed in brains, living among them. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ The bully is always more aggressive and belligerent than the good lad studying for his degree in Physics or History. A bandit or a dacoit is always superior to the unarmed family man at home playing with his children or watching television or having a meal with family. \\\\\\\\\\\ By now we ought to have UNDERSTOOD the "DEVIL" in Islam and kept them AWAY, beyond our frontiers and borders, not embrace them like ignorant fools and call them "bhai - bhai"! \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ If "BROKEN" Bharat must have the Muslims despite Partition, then they MUST BE SUBJECTED TO ONE LAW FOR ALL. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Warn them that Hindusthan is not Arabia or an intellectual desert, and our ways of life are different. They must accept and respect the BELIEFS of the majority community, the HINDUS, if they wish to enjoy the privilege of living in Hindusthan. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Remove Article 370 from the "Constitution of the Defeated", and integrate Kashmir properly in Hindusthan in order to remove the "dispute", settle the HINDUS in the Kashmir Valley. Liberate North Kashmir instead of East Bengal and serve notice on Pakistan, "TAKE YOUR MUSLIMS FROM INFIDEL INDIA so that they live true Islamic lives without rubbing shoulders with the infidels. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Can you have a meal in peace if a couple of flies are hovering over it and buzzing in your ears? Muslims in Hindusthan, since Partition, are a nuisance like the flies- in fact like the killer bees. The proof is Pakistan that was meant to be for ALL of them. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ======= \\\\\\\\\\\\\ In a message dated 16/08/2012 08:38:40 GMT Daylight Time, writes: A fatwa is a decree, a ruling. The mufti who is authorised to issue fatwas has to have encyclopaedic knowledge – for he will be required to pronounce on matters that range from personal hygiene, to marital relations, to the fine points on the law of inheritance, to whether the Earth moves around the Sun or the Sun moves around the Earth, to the way a Muslim should live in and the extent of allegiance he should owe to a country like India. In a line, fatwas are the shariah in action.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ In his path-breaking book The World of Fatwas or the Shariah in Action; scholar, author, celebrated journalist, former editor and Minister and one of the foremost voices in India’s public life and discourse, Arun Shourie delves into the vast and fascinating world of fatwas as they have accumulated over the years and produces a body of work that provides a deep insight into a key aspect of Islam at home and abroad. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ A revised edition of the book, with startlingly new material, has just been published by Harper Collins Publishers India. Over the coming days we will bring you excerpts from the fresh material. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ The querist asks— \\\\\\\\\\\\But first a word about the manner in which what they ask is set out: so that nothing may be lost in translation, so to say, the questions and answers, including their spellings and grammar, are given exactly as they appear in the official website of the Darul Ifta, Dar-ul Ulum, Deoband. To get back to the querist, he asks, \\\\\\\\\\\\\ I would like to refer to book Fadaail-e-Hajj (English version)by Shaykhal Hadeeth Maulana Mohammad Zakariyya, published by Kutub Khana Faizi Lahore, Pakistan, on Section 9; Manners of Ziarat, story no. 9,a story about Syed Ahmad Rifaee (rahmatullahialaih) which performs a hajj and ziarahrasulullah grave. On the grave, he recited a couple of poems. After that, the sacred hand of rasulullah came out of the grave and the syed kissed it. It is said that the occasion is witnessed by 90,000 people. My question,\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ • Can I trust the story because as what I knew, dead people cannot at any circumstances be brought alive. So, can dead people become alive? The 90,000 witnesses also seem superflous as can people with that huge number see the hand of rasulullah come out from the grave and kissed by the syaikh? To me, the story is merely sufism in nature which lay people like me could potentially misunderstand about the story and brought forward false story to other. Only Allah knows best. \\\\\\\\\\\\\ The ulema of the Dar-ul Ulum, Deoband, the institution that is often referred to as the‘Al Azhar of the East’, answer as follows: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Answer: 23583 Jul 28,2010 (Fatwa:1118/L=306/tl=1431)\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ This event does not belong to tasawwuf (mysticism), rather the people saw the holy hand coming out of the blessed grave with their naked eyes. It is proved that the dead can be alive with the permission of Allah. The book “TazkiraShah AbdurRahim Dehlavi…,” published from Al-Furqan Lucknow, contains a booklet with the title “Murdon Ki Zindon Se Ham Kalami.” In this booklet, Hadhrat Maulana Manzoor Nomani…has substantially proved in detail that the dead can talk to those who are alive. For details, study the same. Allah (Subhana WaTa’ala) (Mighty and Great) knows Best Darul Ifta, Darul Uloom Deoband \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ That is not a fatwa issued in the middle ages. It was issued on 28 July 2010. Two points are worthy of notice here: What the ulema of this high authority regard as fact, and what they regard as proof of that fact. That something is written in a book to the effect that 90,000 persons witnessed the hand rise out of the grave 1,400 years ago is both necessary and sufficient for them to maintain that the hand did indeed rise out of the grave; that a booklet written by Maulana Manzoor Nomani says that the dead can talk to the living establishes that they can indeed talk… \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\A believer in the United Kingdom is in search for answers to equally vexed questions. “1- I have heard that when a baby is born a shaitan is also born and the shaitan stays with that person until he dies. Is this true and what is the reference?” he writes. “2- If the above is true then when the person dies then does the shaitan who was with the person also die as well or does the shaitan go by someone else?” \\\\\\\\\\\\\\The ulema answer with becoming gravity and satisfaction, and also modesty: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ You are right. Every man is born with a jinn companion who accompanies him till death… We could not find whether this Satan dies after the person or goes anywhere else, but it is reported from scholars that if a dead is buried after reciting the verse… the Satan companion is also buried with him. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ The fatwas issued in response to such queries give us a glimpse of one of the root causes of two, indeed twin, fundamental problems.For the ulema as well as the community they have weaned, that something is said in the Quran or narrated in the Hadis, that something has been asserted by a person whose chief claim to being an authority on matters ranging from the mundane to the entirely unknown was that he could invoke a verse from the Quran or recall an opposite Hadis or, indeed, cite the passage from the work of someone like himself—each of these is sufficient as proof of an assertion. The other side of this feature is that the liberal is always on the defensive. He would proceed by evidence—as it is understood in, say, empirical sciences. But he has no way to discount a proposition if his interlocutor can invoke the Quran or some old authority in its support. The third difficulty for the community, and therefore for the rest of the world, is also in evidence in such pronouncements: the mind of the ulema remains rooted so far in the past as to be incomprehensible.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ That is not all. For there is the other side to the coin—the mind of the followers whom they have weaned. -----------------------\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ And below is a sample of what the Koran says about non-Muslims. And, therefore, in the words of Dr KD Prithipal, "Muslims will only live as an oppressive majority and a turbulent minority". Where is the evidence of history that it has been any different? And so why do our "secularists" assume, even after knowing 1947, that it will be any different in India (that, as it happens, is the home of the Dar-ul Ulum, Deoband)? \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ As for the disbelievers, whether thou warn them or thou warn them not (2.6) Theirs will be an awful doom (2.7) the fire prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is of men (2.24) they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful owners of the Fire. They will abide therein (2.39). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ The curse of Allah is on disbelievers (2.89). For disbelievers is a shameful doom (2.90). Allah (Himself) is an enemy to the disbelievers (2.98) only miscreants will disbelieve (2.99). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Lo! those who disbelieve, and die while they are disbelievers; on them is the curse of Allah and of angels and of men combined (2.161). The doom will not be lightened for them, neither will they be reprieved (2.162). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Yet of mankind are some who take unto themselves (objects of worship which they set as) rivals to Allah, loving them with a love like (that which is the due) of Allah (only).....Allah is severe in punishment (2.165).\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ The likeness of those who disbelieve (in relation to the messenger) is as the likeness of who who calleth that which heareth naught except a shout and cry. Deaf, dumb, blind, therefore they have no sense (2.171).\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Warfare is ordained for you (2.216) a believing slave is better than an idolater (2.221). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Allah! There is no God save Him.....His throne includeth the heavens and the earth, and He is never weary of preserving them (2.255). He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture wherein are clear revelations.....None knoweth its explanation save Allah (3.7). Whoso disbelieveth the revelations of Allah (will find that) lo! Allah is swift at reckoning (3.19). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security (3.28). And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter (3.85) on them rests the curse of Allah and of angels and of men combined (3.87). Their doom will not be lightened, neither will they be reprieved (3.88). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Lo! those who disbelieve, and die in disbelief.....Theirs will be a painful doom and they will have no helpers (3.91). Lo! ...those who disbelieve...are rightful owners of the Fire. They will abide therein (3.116). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ O ye who believe! Take not for intimates others than your own folk (3.118). Allah may...blight the disbelievers (3.141). O ye who believe! If ye obey those who turn back as losers (3.149). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve because they ascribe unto Allah partners, for which no warrant hath been revealed. Their habitation is the Fire, and hapless the abode of the wrong-doers (3.151). And let those who disbelieve imagine that the rein We give them bodeth good unto their souls. We only give them rein that they may grow in sinfulness. And theirs will be a shameful doom (3.178). Hell is sufficient for (their) burning (4.55). Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment (4.56). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fight in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward (4.74). Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil (4.76) Allah! There is no God save Him (4.87). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever you find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them (4.89).\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Those of the believers who sit still...are not on an equality with those who strive in the way of Allah with their wealth and their lives (4.95) In truth the disbelievers are an open enemy to you (4.101). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ O ye who believe! Choose not disbelievers for (your) friends in place of believers. Would ye give Allah a clear warrant against you? (4.144) And they who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, such are rightful owners of hell (5.10). As for those who disbelieve, lo! if all that is in the earth were theirs, and as much again therewith, to ransom them from the doom on the Day of Resurrection, it would not be accepted from them. Theirs will be a painful doom (5.36). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ They will wish to come forth from the Fire, but they will not come forth from it. Theirs will be a lasting doom (5.37). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends.....He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them (5.51) But keep your duty to Allah if ye are true believers (5.57). Thou seest many of them making friends with those who disbelieve.....Allah will be wroth them and in the doom they will abide (5.80). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour unto you, and have chosen for you as religion AL-ISLAM (5.3).** Unto Allah belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and whatsoever is therein (5.120). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Follow thou not the whims of those who deny Our revelations, those who believe not in the Hereafter and deem (others) equal with their Lord (6.151). They are only the (true) believers whose hearts feel fear when Allah is mentioned, and when the revelations of Allah are recited unto them they increase their faith (8.2). Who establish worship (8.3). Those are they who are in truth believers (8.4) and cut the root of the disbelievers (8.7). I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger (8.12).. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Whoso opposeth Allah and His messenger, (for him) lo! Allah is severe in punishment (8.13) for disbelievers is the torment of the Fire (8.14) and religion is all for Allah (8.39). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ If thou couldst see how the angels receive those who disbelieve, smiting their faces and their backs and (saying): Taste the punishment of burning! (8.50). And let not those who disbelieve suppose they can outstrip (Allah's purpose). Lo! they cannot escape (8.59). Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force (8.60). O prophet! Exhort the followers to fight.....they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence (8.65). It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land (8.67). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Freedom of obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye have made a treaty (9.1). Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve (9.3) slay the idolaters wherever ye find them (9.5). Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and He will lay them low and give you victory over them (9.14) idolaters.....their works are vain and in the Fire they will abide (9.17). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers (9.23). O ye who believe! The idolaters only are unclean (9.28). Allah guideth not the disbelieving folk (9.37). O ye who believe! What aileth you that when it is said unto you: Go forth in the way of Allah, ye are bowed down to the ground with heaviness (9.38). If ye go not forth He will afflict you with a painful doom (9.39). Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! (9.41) Allah promiseth…the disbelievers fire of hell for their abode. It will suffice them. Allah curseth them, and theirs is lasting torment (9.68). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers…Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey’s end (9.73). Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain (9.111). It is not for the Prophet, and those who believe, to pray for the forgiveness of idolaters even though they may be near of kin (to them) after it hath become clear that they are people of hell-fire (9.113). O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you (9.123). Nay, but Allah’s is the whole command…..As for those who disbelieve, disaster ceaseth not to strike them because of what they do, or it dwelleth near their home until the threat of Allah come to pass. Lo! Allah faileth not to keep the tryst (13.31). We have appointed hell a dungeon for disbelievers (17.8) and that those who believe not in the Hereafter, for them We have prepared a painful doom (17.10). See how We prefer one above another (17.21).\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Set not up with Allah any other god (O man) lest thou sit down reproved, forsaken (17.22). Thy Lord hath decreed, that ye worship none save Him (17.23) And set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell (17.39). Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers Fire (18.30). Lo! We have prepared hell as a welcome for the disbelievers (19.103). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down their heads (22.19). Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too will be melted (22.20) And for them are hooked rods of iron (22.21). Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning (22.22). So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them with a great endeavour (25.52). Lo! Allah hath cursed the disbelievers, and hath prepared for them a flaming fire (33.64) Wherein they will abide for ever (33.65). So Allah punisheth …idolatrous men and idolatrous women (33.73). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of the bonds…That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed, He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others (47.4). And those who disbelieve, perdition is for them (47.8). And as for him who believeth not in Allah and His messenger – Lo! We have prepared a flame for disbelievers (48.13). He it is Who hath sent Hismessenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion (48.28). Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers (48.29). The (true) believers are those only who believe in Allah and His messenger and afterward doubt not, but strive with their wealth and their lives for the cause of Allah (49.25). Allah hath decreed: Lo! I verily shall conquer, I and My messengers (58.21). \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ And there hath arisen between us and you hostility and hate for ever until ye believe in Allah only (60.4). Lo! Allah loveth those who battle for His cause in ranks, as if they were a solid structure (61.4). He it is who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may make it conqueror of all religion however much idolaters may be averse (61.9). O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers…and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey’s end (66.9). Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers manacles and carcans and a raging fire (76.4). Those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scriptures and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings (98.6). __._,_.___=============================================== 000000000