Date: 11/11/2021
Re: Our Taxila & Nalanda Universities vs Present Colleges , Our Students wanting to go abroad fr further Higher Studies , Why Sirs? Can we Not establish one Institute where world sytudents may Fight to getadmission
Thu, 11 Nov 2021 8:25
bk chaudhari
Bless you, Guptaji,
I agree with and highly appreciate your valued
comments.
Since I was also at the receiving end, I gave my version
predominantly.
The Education System had been under the firm controls
of Muslims, even after 1958, when Maulana Azad died.
Thereafter the Leftisdts and other KAUMNASHTS took over.
Nehru had least interest in education and him scholars are
VIDESHI VIDWAANS and he preferred VIDESHI ETIQUETTES
and STYLES.
I was the first Indian National, who obtained postgraduate
DIPLOMA IN MANAGEMENT STUDIES with excellent grades
and recognitions. I tried my best to be of service to my
country and tried my best, but I was firmly given the impression
that ONCE YOU HAVE LEFT INDIAN SPOIL, GET LOST. We can do
well without you!
But the fact that I was disappointed with the rulers of my country
and the rotten system, it did not/does not mean that I wpuld not
be loyal to my Bharat.
Great regards
BK Chaudhari
From: Satish Chandra Gupta
Sent: 09 November 2021 13:29
Subject: Re: Our Taxila & Nalanda Universities vs Present Colleges , Our Students wanting to go abroad fr further Higher Studies , Why Sirs? Can we Not establish one Institute where world sytudents may Fight to getadmission
Dear Shri Chaudhari Saheb,
When In 1947, we got TRANSFER OF POWER in our Hands, it was assumed that EducationWhich was Totally spoilt by Mcaulay system will receive some better attention & some Corrective Steps Will be Taken to bring it at par with International Standards but It was given Secondary Status with no attempt to improve its standards except opening up of a few I.I.T .Colleges, which Could Easily attain better then International standards owing to inherent Indian Talents . Even in our Village Schools , children Were able to calculate "Addha, pauna, sawa-ai with ease orally "....etc which the Mcaulay System Could not disturb owing to the Greatness of our Inherent Educational System & "Shruti System "of Education .
Our Founding Fathers ignored Education resulting in our Students who were highly Talented, Got More & More Dependent on
Westernised Education System and instead of thinking themselves New or Original, they depended on learned overseas writers & thoughts, instead of Giving Their own Thoughts , hence Colleges like Harvard or Universities like Oxford, Cambridge are Still flourishing in the West Instead of Developing Even One University of their level in our own Country, Meaning Dwindling Standards in our Education.
Sir, In Defence , though Nehru ,was Wanting that we need No Army, But our DEFENCE EXPERTS THOUGHT OTHERWISE & our GENERALS HAD ESTABLISHED has made us to fight even against China which Brings Talents of Young persons from Various Countries & we have Healthy INTER-EXCHANGE OF DEFENCE STRATEGIES & Fight in Various Terrain against all odds & we were able to produce FIRST CLASS GENERALS/ DEFENCE STRATEGISTS, BETTER THAN ANY EUROPEAN OR AMERICAN Generals which alone made us to defend our Country in Four Wars with Pakistan or even against CHINESE against all odds when they are About four TO Five Times Superior to us . IT IS ALL DUE TO HAVING OUR OWN ACADEMY. SAME THING IS APPLICABLE TO IN our EDUCATIONAL FIELD .
Please also Understand this way by opening a University that is supposed to be Better than International Standard, We shall be able to check our Brain Drain as well.
Chaudhary Saheb, An illiterate person Like me has understood the Importance of Such a RENOWNED COLLEGE / UNIVERSITY in our Country , so why Not all the learned heads together could think of a better Educational University for Our Students.
Kind Regards,
S C GUPTA.
On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 14:04, bk chaudhari wrote:
Wah, Guptaji, Wah Wah!!
Your pain straking comments about every aspect of
our beloved country are very much rewarding.
But this time you have touched upon Education,
the very basis of our foundations and progress.
I thought institutions like IMAs have attracted students from abroad,
but unfortunately, our education system is let down by
some unscrupulous persons for selfish commercial reasons.
With the unleashed mushrooming of Educational Institutions without proper scrutinising the standards
did harm us.
In Britain after the sixties, even prestigious universities like the Panjab, Madras and
others' candidates were asked to take entry examinations/tests for the authenticity
of their certificates/credentials.
Guptaji, of course our university products are genuine and
acknowledged throughout the world. But brain drain mostly
leapt and even encouraged during Indira's reign, was a serious
failure on our part. We could not develop means to utilize it in
our own land.
But persons like me thought brain drain is better than brain in drain
and now this too has proved to be a cayse of prestige for our mother land.
Regards
BK Chaudhari
From: Satish Chandra Gupta
Subject: Re: Our Taxila & Nalanda Universities vs Present Colleges , Our Students wanting to go abroad fr further Higher Studies , Why Sirs? Can we Not establish one Institute where world sytudents may Fight to getadmission
Dear Learned & Great Thinkers/ Nationalists,
May I once again Draw yr kind Attention towards this urgent Need of our Country; if We have to grow as Vishwa Guru or make GENUINE progress in diverse fields, we shall Have to think of improvement in our Educational Field .
Have we ever thought why our Taxila & Nalanda Universities were world famous , attracting Students from all over the world ? or Why even Usa has been wanting initially TEN THOUSAND MATHS TEACHERS FROM INDIA twenty-Twentyfive Years ago or why Financial Matters in Large CORPORATIONS worldwide are Controlled by our Indian CEOs or why even during First Space Mission to conserve water & to make Human Urine into Potable drinking water Our Indian Doctor Arun Kumar of our I.I.T., Kharagpur had invented a Process for Converting it into Potable Water.
Thus , I am laying emphasis on Indian Talents as the world's TOP Corporates are controlled Or headed by Indians like Microsoft 45%; Boing 25% and So on.
Even in Top Universities the Mathematics deptt is usually controlled by Indians . So why not we may have world Class Universities in India itself & save our Indian Talent Selling their Expertise overseas. Why we can Not think of HIGH SALARIES & FACILITIES & INFRASTRUCTURE WITH WELL EQUIPPED LIBRARIES AT PAR WITH FOREIGN UNIVERSITIES.
Sirs, I invoke Our Learned people to please think of National Interest & give FIRST Priority To EDUCATION.
Kind Regards,
S C Gupta.
( A Concerned Nationalist ).
On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 at 18:39, Satish Chandra Gupta wrote:
Fwded for their Comments :
On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 at 12:26, Satish Chandra Gupta wrote:
Most Urgent :
Dear Sirs,
Further to my above mail, I feel Rs One thousand Crores per College/ University, is inadequate if we want to set up A world Class College or University , the funds may be required more than TEN THOUSAND CRORES EACH or More please .
Further the names FOR the PROPOSED COMMITTEE I have proposed are basically of Those giants who are renowned Top Capitalists, to which GEGUINE PHILANTHROPISTS Names could be added .
Many -many More amendments are required to my above basic Thought.
Regards,
S C Gupta.
On Sat, 6 Nov 2021 at 13:39, Satish Chandra Gupta wrote:
Dear Dr Shri Venkataramaiah ji,
I sincerely thank you very much For yr Kind promt concern & lamenting the problems there too.
Sir, I am aware of those problems and many more then listed By you in yr Mail, Particularly Of the problems listed by you under Serial Nos, 2 & 6 of yr mail, Low Quality thesis is awarded PHd to favourite Students & most of the Higher Institutions including Medical , Engineering & Management Institutes are controlled By Politicians or Mafia or rather entire educational System is Now controlled by Mafia or Politicians and they Charge Heavy Capitation fees in the name of Donations, that is why our Students are forced to various overseas countries to obtain Good Quality Education including bringing in them Some Originality & Real Researches .
I know ,Sir, that our Higher Educational system is suffering from various ills, so my intense desire is to have our Such a Few Colleges/ Universities which may attract students from overseas instead of Our Students looking For Overseas Education .We have to seriously think about it , duly supported by with world class Libraries with Minimum of Government Interference.
There are a lot of Private Enterprises / businessmen/ industrialist who donate huge Sum of Money to a few of Colleges / Universities overseas and Create a Seat or seats for their wards, so why not the same Industrialists/ Businessmen come forward to Establish Such quality Educational Institutes in INDIA itself to which Government of India could give some Seed Money & Support and overcome the problems as mentioned in yr mail above & many more.
I feel , we should have enough Good Primary , High schools & UnderGraduate Institutions first ,then only ,we could think of world class Education
Sir , as I come from North, please allow me to quote three educationists names:
1. Pt. Madan Mohan Malviya ji, who established Benaras Hindu University.
2. Acharya Shri Naraendra Devji, who established Lucknow University.
3. Prof Gaur who throughout his life lived like a pauper but built a Quality University of Saugar, M.P. from his own each penny .
I know a lot of Wrong has been Done under various administrations & at the same time when Government of India gave them Free hand , Certain People Took Undue Advantage of every facility etc which were accorded to them , like one Noble Laureate.
May I therefore , expect a few more Constructive thoughts to promote my initial thought, rather I offer Some more Learned & capable Person may take over this responsibility in their More Capable Hands.
I also feel that a board of Some sincere people may take over This as an Honest Mission in their own Hands , A few names which come to my mind are of :
SARVASHRI MUKESH AMBANI, RATAN TATA, PHIROZE GODREJ, PREMJI BHAI, KOTAKS, MAHINDRAS, Birlas, ANIL AGARWAL, NARAYAN MURTHY& SHRI NARENDRA BHAI MODI.
regards,
S C gupta,
Tel : 9820587609.
On Sat, 6 Nov 2021 at 11:27, Dr. K. R. Venkataramaiah wrote:
Dear Satish Chandra Gupta, Sir:
There are many issues concerned with Higher Education in India.
1. There are too many Institutions trying to provide Masters and Ph.D. degrees.
2. Ph.D.s are awarded to low quality Academic Standards.
3. Qualified Faculty Members are not available.
4. Adequate Libraries are non-existent.
5. In most Institutions required Laboratory Facilities are not present.
6. Too many POLITICIANS are owning Educational Institutions.
7. I.A.S. officers call the shots in some Govt. Institutions.
8. Reservations in hiring Faculty Members and admitting students is a biggest threat to the quality of Graduating Students.
9. Politics in hiring Faculty and promoting Faculty members exist in many Institutions including IITs and NITs.
10. I am one of the VICTIMs of this system-my job was not given back to me at Karnataka Regional Engineering College-now called NIT-K, Surathkal, Mangalore, after returning from abroad with a number of higher degrees and World-Class research work because of Caste Politics. Lingayats dominated the decision making process. My Salary and Benefits have not been paid despite many requests and even after an appeal to Rt. Hon. PM of India, Sri Modi Ji and the Education Minister.
I can write more about Higher Education in India. But, who cares ?
I remain, Sincerely,
Dr. K. R. Venkataramaiah,
On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 9:38 PM Satish Chandra Gupta wrote:
DEAR Learned Educationists / Thinkers,
Why we & our great Thinkers & Learned scholars have NO TIME to think why we can NOT produce at least one College/ University which may attract students from ALL over the world as was during our Nalanda & Taxila Days.
As was in Nehru's time Education was given A secondary treatment that trend is still continuing; we talk of Economic Progress ,INDUSTRIAL PROGRESS, PROGRESS IN EVERY FIELD EXCEPT EDUCATION , resulting our Students for Higher or Specialised Educational Field , our Students have to look for Admission to any good University/ College overseas . Have we ever thought why we can Not produce a single College/ University of the level of HARVARD, CAMBRIDGE , OXFORD, M.I.T. ETC WHY ? Sirs !
A COLLEGE OR A GOOD UNIVERSITY CAN NOT BE BUILT OVERNIGHT, IT REQUIRES DEDICATION , SINCERE EFFORTS OF DEDICATED EDUCATIONISTS FOR OVER HUNDRED YEARS OF ITS TRADITIONS & VALUES WITH A GOOD LIBRARY, LIKE, "LIBRARY OF CONGRESS" IN WASHINGTON.
WHY WE CAN NOT FORM A COMMITTEE OF FIVE PERSONS OF PROVEN ABILITY , WHO MAY SOLELY DEDICATE THEMSELVES TO ACHIEVE THIS AIM. PLEASE THINK & THINK . SELECT TEN MAJOR CITIES WITH CAPITAL REQUIREMENT FOR RS. ONE THOUSAND CRORES EACH & ESTABLISH BETTER THAN WORLD CLASS COLLEGE / UNIVERSITY.
AS IT IS THERE IS ACUTE SHORTAGE OF GOOD SCHOOLS & COLLEGES IN EVERY TOWN/ CITY, SO WE HAVE TO LAY GREATEST EMPHASIS TOWARDS EDUCATION ; SALARY STRUCTURE SHOULD BE SO ATTRACTIVE THAT PEOPLE MAY PREFER TEACHING LINE AS THEIR FIRST CHOICE , BETTER THAN I.A.S CADRE SERVICES .
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS YOUNG, SOVIET UNION HAD LAID MAXIMUM EMPHASIS ON EDUCATION TO NEHRU . NEHRU ADOPTED THEIR SOCIAL POLITICAL MAP BUT IGNORED THEIR ADVICES ON EDUCATION . SO WE HAVE REACHED TO THIS PATHETIC STATE. OUR EDUCATION POLICY HAS TO COMPLETELY OVERHAULED & RELOOKED. THUS JUST A FEW ARYA VIDYA MANDIRS, D.A.V. SCHOOLS & LIKES ETC ARE REMAINING IN THE FIELD, ELSE HAVE NO VALUE SO WE FIND MUSHROOMING OF INTERNATIONAL COLLEGES IN OUR COUNTRY.
PLEASE WAKE UP & DO SOMETHING ON THIS ASPECT FAST.
REGARDS,
S C GUPTA.
( A Concerned Nationalist )